'Note Logic'? boolean logic, binary, theory, etc. area

yeh, soz :-) a bit manic, just getting some stuff
on the table. speaking of which, im just gonna sit
down with pen+paper and do it myself..

all sorts of different ways of looking at it tho'.

and:

"How many modes?>
there are seven modes related to the major scale, one is the major scale itself.

That is for each of the 12 major scales there are seven modes.

The modes are:

Ionian (major)
Dorian
Phrygian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Aeloian
Locrian

The modes in any one major key, all share the same notes.
Ie in C major, all the modes,
D Dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aeolian and B Locrian,
have the sames notes!

But because they have different roots, they sound different!

One way of memorising the modes, is to remember which notes are changed.
What i mean is, as each mode has a root note, what would the equivalent
major key be?

Ie , D Dorian.
It is parallel to D Major. But D dorian has no sharps as it is the second
mode of C Major.

Therefore if D Major has two sharps and D dorian has none then there are
two flats in D dorian by comapirson.

What i mean is, you can either work from the relative major key (C in this example),
or work from the parallel Major key instead, (D Major) and flatten the 3rd degree of
D major and the 7th degree to arrive at D dorian.

Ie flatten F#(3rd degree of D maj) and c#(7th degree of D major).

So if you memorise that dorian is flat 3 and flat 7, then you can make a dorian scale
from any of the 12 keys, (provided you know your major scales of course). This is the
best way of working. It is preferable to working back down to the relative Major key
as it is quicker than that and therefore less prone to mistakes and easier to remember.

But when you start using relative major keys which have large amount of flats it should
be recognised that the keys of Gflat and Cflat are synonymous with the keys of C# and F#
and the modes work easier when you flatten a sharp note to a natural note and less better
when you do same to an already flat note, such as the Bflat in the key of Gflat which
results in B double flat instead, you use the F# key and the result in an A natural from
the 3rd degree in the key(A#).

Music theory is difficult because of the possibility of ambiguity and musicians know this
all too well, so it is totally cool to ask for clarity when a person talks of flats, keys
chords etc as you probably know already!"
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>so there it is, people: why prose is over-rated as a means of transferring info ;-)
a chart is on its way, but if B' has taken time to write this, be assured it's all there.
(he wouldn't bother otherwise)
but i think this illustrates quite well why one would want to be alble to visualize it
differently, and develop a faster, more intuitive handling/reading/etc. of scales. (it's
going to be simpler than it sounds >;-) )

>look above:
'R' is the root. in Em, all the red R are Es.
once you learn all those in E, you've got a much
better picture of where you're going, and can get
back on track easily.(hey, wdf do i know...this is
just my 'bodge'-theory-application tryppe)

(thanks to Mushroom Andy for turning me onto this :-) )

so, of course, this doesn't help us too much with keyboard
view, and the key edit page - but it's nice for guitarists.
this shape is what you get recurring in loads of traditional
music/instruments with strings(?).

*chinese* modes! (..context...)

users.wfu.edu/moran/Cathay_Cafe/G_tar.html

here's what i mean by a scale template:

a major scale will have:

0-2-45-7-9-11
>positions on a 0-11 representation of an octave(as 12 semitones)
so if it was '+ 0-11'etc. you'd put in the root, and it knows what
the whole scale is. same thing with templates for the other modes
(which i will get round to doing today)
the hyphens are notes not used.

this *has* been explained to me before, ha, but you have to get your
hands dirty...
there are 7 modes. each on starts on a degree of the Cmaj scale (wrongly
described as 'natural', soz, stand corrected: describes just a note)

so if Ionian is the pure major, no flats/sharps in C semi intervals are 2212221

Dorian starts with no flats/sharps on D >            semi intervals are  2122212
and against C/C#/D/D#/E/F/F#/G/G#/A/A#/B/ gives; 2-45-7-9-11-0 (key of D)

as a *relative* template against the Cmaj template this would then give:
???eeek?? 0-23-5-7-9 10 > key of C *one to use?*

(and so on..still doing it)

is this correct?