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Post by sepoweruser on Feb 22, 2014 14:11:10 GMT 1
Here are mine: 1. A proprietary patch system SE 1.2 32bit compiles to VST2 only. SE 1.2 64bit compiles to VST3 only. VST2 plugins can't load VST3 presets, VST3 plugins can't load VST2 presets. VST3 doesn't support banks, only single presets. So the compiled plugin only has one single sound, and you only can load one single sound at once. VST3 presets don't allow to include a patch name with the preset. So there's no way to find out what a patch was called once saved. The 32bit version and the 64bit version of the same plugin can't exchange patches. So synthedit really needs a proprietary patch system that sits on top of the vst2 or vst3 host interface and has an own proprietary patch format which would allow 32bit vst2 and 64bit vst3 plugins to exchange patches and too would allow vst3 plugins to load whole banks instead of just single presets. The best would be if the saved and recalled parameters only would include the ones that really are used for GUI controls and are armed for vst automaton, and not hidden parameters that e.g. are used in dsp-to-gui converter modules that use a patch-store pin for dsp-to-gui conversion. Such modules always have messed up patch compatibility in the past. A good example for a clear, easy and simple proprietary patch system ist the one of former synthmaker which was able to save and recall single patches or whole banks to simple clearly readable xml-style text files which simply list the parameters and their dedicated values, plus include a patch name for patches and for banks additionally a bank name and patch numbers. You can check this patch system out with this free synthmaker plugin: www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?id=3312. For SE 1.2 64bit the ability to compile to VST2 too instead of just VST3 While VST3 for sure is the interface of the future and is taking over more and more now it unfortunately simply is a fact that many hosts and sequencers still don't support VST3 at this time, which means: A 64bit plugin compiled by synthedit only can be used in a handful of vst hosts at this time, while important hosts like Ableton Live or Reaper in their current versions won't be able to load 64bit synthedit plugins. Since the VST3 SDK from Steinberg allows to export to VST2 as well I guess this should be somehow possible to implement without too many time consuming changes. But of course this is something only Jeff can answer. These are my two wishes, however the first one being more important than the second one since VST3 will take over completely one day and solve this issue. But what's in the meantime. I'd be completely happy already if these two wishes would get fullfilled. |
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Post by setronic on Feb 22, 2014 21:45:30 GMT 1
i use 1.017 still - haven' t moved over to 1.1 for
one crucial reason: i can't change the background colour.
i would learn the pin direction and the new sems, but i
don't want to sit in front of a stark white glare.
darker should be better for eyes(?)
i'm comfortable with everything on 1.017, it outweighs
the benefits of superior export features in terms of my
every day use. i'd be happy to have all that, but i don't
want to have to turn everything on its head.
so i'd like to see SE evolve in a compatible way, not
change beyond recognition.(can't see the point in having
properties open all the time) i'm resigned to 1.2 being
for future users at this point-as far as i'm concerned.
re: patchmems: the way i've ended
up building everything is to separate GUIside, patchmems,
and DSP+lists, and this makes it much easier than dealing
with complex obscure things to look at every time you need
to go down into containers to change something. you can also
deal with all your automation etc. in one place/container.
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Post by sepoweruser on Feb 23, 2014 12:59:06 GMT 1
Well yes, I'd prefer the old interface as well if I'm honest, there was nothing bad about it imho. But it's time to move on - we have 2014 now and nearly everyone is using 64bit hosts now and so 32bit plugins are dead end. So I really appreciate that Jeff took the effort to bring synthedit to 64bit and too (which is very very cool) finally made it cross-platform.
However, if one checks the 1.2 release history so far there could arise some doubt it will ever leave alpha state and do not speak of getting finished at all ever. Based on my research on yahoo user groups synthedit 1.2 is in alpha state since early 2011, so since more than 3 years now. So when it takes another 3 years to reach beta state and another 3 until it's finished the vst interface maybe won't exist anymore, hosts and systems will be 128bit and some of us already may be dead.
So my main feature request besides the two I posted already is that synthedit 1.2 leaves alpha state before the sun explodes and becomes a red dwarf, because then it won't be of any use anymore for anyone. Life is NOW.
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Post by Rob on Feb 23, 2014 13:45:36 GMT 1
I agree we should have a stable 1.2 release, it has been so long now.
As for building plugins, the 32bit version works quite well on my laptop and so far no crashes.
I personally really like the new interface, be able to bend wires was something I always wanted for SE.
And the overall look is nice, plus having side menus.
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Post by alienoiz on Feb 23, 2014 14:58:46 GMT 1
Well, i have the "solution" for all your problems....
If Jeff started to implement 64bit in SE since version 1.1, nothing of this would happen.
I believe the interface is nice as it is in version 1.1, if setronic likes it how it is in version 1.0, the better. SE 64-bit version could have been started after version 1.0 and today would be a stable software capable of export VST3 and would have catched up the VST industry and developement in time. Module coders would be much more intersted and perhaps those who sold theirs and now have them for free because it´s almost useless not be, should be making more money and SE could be much more higher in this market and community.
I do not know i this is a call of Jeff or if could be made this way, but i also believe version 1.0 is not that different than version 1.1. So, despite of loving this software i believe that this may lead to a dead end in the future.
I also agree that a stable release of SE 1.2 it´s a priority, anyway i always wanted a higher featured Freq. Analist cause the old one is too simple and we cannot change the color of the grid and spectrum line. I do not know how to code one, so i always get blocked when i want to use one on any plugin. This module also should have an update rate control and zoom in / zoom out property.
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Post by sepoweruser on Feb 23, 2014 15:49:54 GMT 1
Well yes, a lot of all of this probably has to do with this here: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/syntheditusers/conversations/topics/47959By browsing through the yahoo groups I also found out there has been a lot of discussion about it in the past already: groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/syntheditusers/conversations/topics/49010Furthermore, "if" is nothing that serves for the reality TODAY. The fact is things are like they are, and SE 1.2 has developed a very big deal since (even if it has been slow) and is close to stable now, except for the missing subcontrols in the 64bit version, which however are in progress too. So I believe it's no very far way to go anymore, and as said already, as far as I'm concerned I'd be completely happy aready if the two feature requests I posted were fullfilled. My only fear is that Jeff doesn't find the time for any further real progress and it will take forever to finish these details, like the tail of a logarithmic curve. That's my only fear. |
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Post by alienoiz on Feb 25, 2014 6:23:35 GMT 1
I come back to say that one of the things that attracts me more in SE 1.2 its the Mac export function...i believe if this function was completely stable would be the great "orgasm" of SynthEdit ... and could bring much more people to it´s community such as module coders and plugin developers.
This is something i forgot to mention early!
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Post by sepoweruser on Feb 25, 2014 12:52:42 GMT 1
Yep definitely. Mac export btw is pretty stable already, the plugins run seamlessly on mac. What's still mising is full support of subcontrols, and of course the final wrapping to audio unit format.
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Post by Rob on Jul 30, 2015 7:58:10 GMT 1
Proper update function in Synthedit, I keep de-installing and installing Synthedit.
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Post by teking66 on Jan 4, 2016 2:31:52 GMT 1
Once it's all ready for prime time, I'd like to have a Oscillator than can load SFZ files and/or wave files.
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Post by Rob on May 1, 2018 16:56:47 GMT 1
Update Synthedit directly from help page.
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Post by meneillos on May 3, 2018 15:33:52 GMT 1
It would be wonderful if the windows in SE did not close when you open others, or that you could leave the window you want blocked while you open other
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Post by f40016 on Jun 18, 2018 3:49:07 GMT 1
First, I wish it have a search modules function in insert block. Second, I wish more modules can open the structure function or maybe let the delay module have independent delay time input to control the delay time, because i don't think "modulation" is mean to control the delay time actually. Third, I wish there have more math module in Synthedit, such as :"+","-","multiply add"and so on, because it'll more clearly to use it. And finally I wish GUI can more friendly to the Win 8.1 users. Whatever,Synthedit is a great software, I hope the version of 1.5 can be update soon. This wishlist is I sum up my 1 month experiences to use it.
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Post by synthalina on Jul 6, 2018 18:10:49 GMT 1
"Always run as admin" option.
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Post by Rob on Jul 7, 2018 16:23:38 GMT 1
"Always run as admin" option. - Right-mouse on the .exe or shortcut. - Choose properties. - Tab compatibility. - Select: run this application as an administrator |
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Post by synthalina on Jul 7, 2018 16:38:02 GMT 1
"Always run as admin" option. - Right-mouse on the .exe or shortcut. - Choose properties. - Tab compatibility. - Select: run this application as an administrator Thank you. |
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Post by muggle on Oct 11, 2018 0:46:32 GMT 1
My simple wish (SynthEdit 1.3):
It would be really handy if the Snap to Grid feature were implemented in conjunction with a Size to Grid feature (for sizing GUI components).
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Post by flip on Nov 2, 2018 19:42:10 GMT 1
Please incorporate a time signature so clock synced vst's can be tested on different time signatures within SynthEdit. If it's already in there I haven't found it and would appreciate it if I could be told where to find it.
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Post by John_W_Thompson on Jan 5, 2022 6:04:05 GMT 1
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